(noun40 voting via agora)

i'm generally supportive of nounish builder storytelling and voting FOR here to signal that but given this prop seems like is not going to pass and doesn't seem to have hit the mark of what the voters wanted I wanted to share some more thoughts.

when i had suggested this type of nouns prop builder storytelling to leo my hope was actually that it would be more of a film for us (existing nouns fans). i liked the idea of these epic journeys being better documented and shared for ourselves and to build our own world's lore. the audience would be max a few thousand ppl but that's okay and even if a few dozen ppl are truly inspired by it to try and attempt a similar epic journey then the money would be worth it.

the current prop (and the additional signal notes) however seems to point towards a different direction. it wants to make something really high production value and submit to film festivals to find larger audiences. that direction to be honest i'm much less sure about. my gut is that if we wanted to hit a mainstream audience then the subject and story might need to be something more mainstream like for example following nouns esports for the next season. i also don't know if 20 minute short documentaries get much distribution?

it might not be what leo and team wants to make and that's their decision, but i (like many others it seems) would be more excited about a lower budget / lower production film that shoots nouns builder films for the nouns fans base to consume. for example $20-30k per film every 3-4 months about a different nounish builder would be more sustainable likely something more ppl could support.

thanks leo for putting this up!

i like the idea, but feel the cost is too high for a single community member docu -- perhaps a remote interview or a much lower cost model which still gets the point across could be a good proof of concept to justify larger/repeat asks

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🥌 🥌 x FOR
↳ leoclark.eth
↳ benbodhi.eth

Throwing weight behind zero weight votes with reason.

Agree w prev against voters here.

I was thinking about what could sway me to a yes here, and the one thing that comes to mind is a ~30sec teaser that id absolutely fall in love with a want more of. Something that shows production quality, tone/style, why Ben is a great subject, etc.

Poll failed to meet vote threshold.

FOR - 22 VOTES

borg00000 | "wherever I see nouns, I see benbohdi"

systemdm.eth | "I mean…. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻"

cheffo | "Team Ben"

AGAINST - 8 VOTES

ABSTAINS - 6 VOTES

I agree with Will's and Noun 12's sentiments and lean no here. I think we could operate something like this that gets most of the same impact, with much leaner costs. It also seems like the audience here would largely be existing Nounsfolk, and I'd want to see more clarity around how it would appeal or distribute to people who aren't as familiar with Nouns (assuming that's the goal).

getting to know benbodhi well completely changed my life. he has the kind of wisdom one can only achieve through living life to the fullest. would love for the rest of the world to have the opportunity of knowing him even a fraction of how i do <3

I want to see Leo making these for more people and feel like the opportunity to tell people’s stories that inherently involve nouns is powerful in the avenues of distribution he has planned.
The animations and art that would be included look to be insanely cool as well.
I support regardless of subject person.

https://www.lilnouns.wtf/vote/nounsdao/448/votes FOR 85 VOTES 0x2eE0485f71764bcD2062A84d9455688c581B90f8 | "lets see where this goes. GL" 0xa47f60564085b8792BaE197BE7762C7f7930eC67 | "Leo and Benbodhi are both great nounish builders! Big fan of them." 0xCEEd9585854F12F81A0103861b83b995A64AD915 | "I was surprised how much I enjoyed the previous doc with Dean Harvey and think Ben offers a lot of interesting content." AGAINST 0 VOTES ABSTAINS 101 VOTES 0x9e0e9D25a5ED9bc773f91691f0b45599255257B1 | "I'll only vote on proposals that require explanations once the proposer attends our weekly calls to explain them." 0x63aa1670aBAF10b93a8fD9804eA304641Ec8aCE8 | "Until the implementation of autonomous voting for off-chain props, I vote abstain on Nouns props."

Nice gesture, but too echochambery, the audience for this is de minimis

I think individual docs are really powerful statements to show people outside Nouns, who Nouns are from a human perspective.

i love documentaries. i’d like to +1 will’s comments and would also appreciate seeing the style, approach, narrative structure, and an overall overview of how the team envisions this documentary.

although I believe we should value the effort of our builders, spending 50k to make a film about a single individual seems too high, and not enough ROI as it's way too niche. I don't believe any respectable film festival will take a second look at it, in all honesty. And as "advertisement" for nouns, then do a journey of nouns, not focused on a single individual.

Hey Will,

Thank you for your feedback.
I am not sure I understand what you mean, but I think what you are suggesting is very similar to what I was doing with Nouns News.

You can still check it out.
Weekly Zoom interviews with builders.
Cheap, fast and easy. Focused on Youtube.

But this is different.
This is an ambitious project to make a proper documentary that can be sent to film festivals and even streaming services.

The goal is to ultimately win an award.
It is very hard to accomplish, but the only way is to try.

Department of Post is the only facility in NZ that has Netflix certification.
They are able to export a final file that is accepted by film theatres and the major streaming platforms.

Another important aspect is the VFX artist, Foothead.
One of my favourite NZ artists.

I would love to onboard him into Nouns.
He will have 6 weeks to create the "magical" layer on top of the story.

Combine that with a killer soundtrack, and we have a very good mix for a winning format.
The content is up to Ben, the DOP, myself and the Universe.

And yes, this is not the cheapest production.
But in terms of documentary budget and crew, we are actually not a big and expensive production either.

We are a small team, with a big dream.

So I would argue that this is not 50k for one interview but rather 50k for a work of art.
Best case scenario as Rick Rubin puts it, will divide the audience.
Worst case, no one will like it.

That is why I am asking for this opportunity.
Only Nouns can make this happen.

It will be my life's most important work to date.
A love letter to Nouns.

Cheers,
Leo

Is there an 80/20 solution here? $12K of the costs are production, $36K is post production.

Is an interview with much lower production value sufficient? Something at the level of YouTube, not a film festival?

I'm not really convinced that ~$50K for a 20 minute documentary about one person is the best use of funds, compared to spending a similar amount interviewing a wider variety of builders and sharing what they do. There are six additional proposed stages that are not covered by this prop. Can we interview more builders with lower production value, rather than one builder with a very high production value?

I like the idea, but not the format. Interviewing builders is great! Spending $50K to interview one builder is what I take issue with.

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I think high quality docs about the Nouns journey can really humanize and attract new members to the community from builders & artists to new token holders. This is a very good way to increase Network Value. It's excited to see Nouns celebrate its contributors in Season 3.